The notes began this morning in one of the online airline geek lists I monitor. Then I got a couple of notes from subscribers. Now, a couple more on the geek list.

It appears that weather stinks in New York today.

And the traffic at JFK is not much better.

Airplanes have apparently been sitting for hours waiting to take off, while only a few moments ago, the JFK tower finally opened up  secondary runway for departures  — 31L.

Average departure delays now being reported: 3.5 hours. Average arrival delay: 4 hours, 10 minutes.

JFK Tower controllers are now saying the back up should be cleared out in 2-3 hours.

Uh-huh.

Interesting, LGA is showing very minor arrival delays and no departure delays, while Newark is reporting no departure delays and an average arrival delay of one hour.